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About the interview

In this conversation with Michael “Pom” Preston from the Winnemem Wintu tribe of North America as he introduces us to his film “One Word Sawalmem”. We are joined by our special co-host Mark Dubois and the film’s co-director Natasha Guayaba. This conversation is a journey into what the sacred means and the experienced cultural differences between those who have lived connected to it all their lives and those who lack the knowing that it exists. It’s an invitation to remember our connection to the land and to grow our awareness of how we live.

The movie focuses on the Winnemem Wintu tribe and how a decision to build a river dam cascaded into a decline for the tribe and the wildlife and biodiversity of the area. When an elevation of the dam was proposed, the tribe went into prayers and reflections on it and received the message from the Salmon fish who could no longer swim on their regular journeys to get to the breeding grounds causing a decline that also affected all who depend on the fish for sustenance.

The conversation was a profound and rich one. We spoke about what it’s like to live from a place of knowing that everything is connected and alive yet being surrounded by a world that does not see through that knowledge. We speak about the relationship to the land, what sacred water means, what the words sacred and reverence mean apart from the historical religious references assigned to it throughout history and more. Pom also spoke of a very special roundhouse they are building to have a safe place to come together and connect while also embodying their relationship with Nature. They are seeking some specific building advice on this and we will talk about how you can help. In conclusion, Pom shares an important message about children and the natural world. We hope you will take the time to join us for the conversation.

Please note if you would like to watch the film “One Word Sawalmem” it is offered by the film company. The film is 20 minutes long, and I found it very powerful and thought-provoking. Please know it’s only available through an opt-in process, which gives you access for a limited time, however as a US company, they may also use your email for additional mailings, which you can opt-out of any time.

If you or anyone you know can help with the construction request Pom spoke of in the video please reach out to:


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Architectual Dome


Father with his Son


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